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Yawgmoth · Jan 22, 2011, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

For as long as I can remember when people speak of a "dual" mod shield or "dual Inherent" mod shield they are speaking of a shield with 2 "inscription" type mods.

So are you saying that for example this beauty:

is NOT a dual-mod or dual inherent shield?
I'm hearing it here for the first time man!
A shield with 2 inherent mods has always been a dual mod or dual inherent shield.

You're probably mistaking the term "dual inherent" with "dual inscription".

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This doesn't mean that it is possible for a shield to have any combination of "inscription" mods on it. I have yet to hear of a shield with +10 vs Element and +10 vs Species.

Ofcourse it's not possible. Since the 2004 beta the item generation algorithms has a built-in protection code which prevents ANY items from spawning with more than 1 mod from the same "mod class". (one exception is the dual reduction shields but they were possible only because the -2 in stance mod was considered a separate "mod class" containing just itself).
EVEN the "bugged" triple modded shields from Mausoleum were generated by the same code and had to pass through the protection - that code prevented the generation of items which would be really gamebreaking (dual health shields, or dual hsr wands, things like that).

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As was stated in another post most of the dual mod shields have either -2 stance + another inscription or they have +1 attribute with any random attribute other then Tactics or Strength(choosen from the caster attributes so no chance of +1 sword/axe/hammer/ext)

Dual mod shields can have ANY combination of 2 mods selected from different 2 of those mod classes:

+Health Mods
+Armor Mods
-Dmg Reduction Mods
-Condition time reduction Mods
+1 of a specific Attribute Mods

For shields dropped in the first ~9 months after release there were 2 Dmg Reduction Mods classes:

-Dmg Reduction Mods (while Enchanted, while Hexed, Chance xx%)
-Dmg Reduction Mods (while in a Stance)

Hope it's easy to understand

zwei2stein · Jan 23, 2011, 08:15 AM // 08:15

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

For shields dropped in the first ~9 months after release there were 2 Dmg Reduction Mods classes:

They still drop:

Hobbs · Jan 23, 2011, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Still exist is not the same as still dropping. Do you know when those 2 dropped? I'd bet it wasn't recently.

zwei2stein · Jan 23, 2011, 09:16 AM // 09:16

i am confident to say that r10 one dropped about two years ago. Of course, i could have been lied to...

Pleikki · Jan 23, 2011, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

Q7 celestial 16 armor
-3 hex
-2 enchant

Not possible

And no. Dual dmg reduction shields dont drop anymore as yawgmoth said

Crom The Pale · Jan 23, 2011, 12:33 PM // 12:33

When people are trying to sell or buy a 'Dual mod shield' they are searching for something rare, not a common item like a shield with -5/20 and 30hp. Now that every shield that has an inscription slot in it can also have a shield handle added to it there are an infinite number of shields with 2 mods on them.

When people are looking for a 'dual inherent' shield they are after the rare ones with -2/-2, -2/-3 or +10armor/+1 attribute. Everything else is just ordinary, though perhaps a little harder to find in Proph/Factions, still they are concidered common.

Bassma · Jan 23, 2011, 02:53 PM // 14:53

I'm looking for a shield with +20% enchantment duration>?

take_me · Jan 23, 2011, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by Bassma

I'm looking for a shield with +20% enchantment duration>?

There is no shield (or offhand) with enchantment-bonus.

And "dual-mod" simply means 2 inherent mods.... on a scepter, or shield or focus.

Bassma · Jan 23, 2011, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Originally Posted by take_me

There is no shield (or offhand) with enchantment-bonus.

And "dual-mod" simply means 2 inherent mods.... on a scepter, or shield or focus.

Damn no shields with +10AC w/stance and no +20% enchantment durations? that kinda suks. Those would be very popular I would think and what's wrong with have those mods/inscriptions?

novawhiz · Jan 23, 2011, 05:43 PM // 17:43

I never understood why that one random collector shield had +energy but you could never get the mod on a real shield.

Bright Star Shine · Jan 23, 2011, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Bassma

I got a Blue 15 AC shield with Tactics 6 req, +10 vs slashing and an open slot? that any good? I was gonna put a +30hp piece into it? give it to my Monk/Warrior since I have just 6 points to waste in something. I see a lot of monks in pvp using shields.. what are those stats?

Euh people, I think we're missing something here.. Either this man made a typo, or is about to come very rich.. q6/15 Shield anyone?? I think you made a mistake my man.

And @ Crom: Dualmod shield = Shield with 2 mods. Period. No discussion, that's what it means. If your theory on "Dualmod = 2 inscriptions" were true, how would you call an inherent shield with only +30hp? Singlemod would be my guess? But since that's derived from Dualmod, it would be wrong, since +30hp isn't an inscription. Dual inscr shield, never heard it, but it would be the best choice to make for a shield with 2 inscription variants.

And, no they're not unfair, and stopping them from dropping would be horrible and a crime against the integrity of all shield-lovers in Guild Wars, and the person that makes that decision should be tortured and killed.. Or at least fined :P

Those shields are way too cool and way too useful to remove from the game, and it's too late now anyway, so I say, don't touch my shields!!

Also: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Chimeric_Prism the most unfair item in this entire game if you ask me. It's SO OP that it's insane..

Bassma · Jan 23, 2011, 06:40 PM // 18:40

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q6/15 Shield anyone?? I think you made a mistake my man.

Yeah I did I went back and looked and it's a Blue AC14/q6 shield but still can put stuff into it. The AC15 shield is q7 it's blue also.

Bright Star Shine · Jan 23, 2011, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Bassma

Yeah I did I went back and looked and it's a Blue AC14/q6 shield but still can put stuff into it. The AC15 shield is q7 it's blue also.

Ah, k lol :P q6/14 and q7/15 are uncommon, but not in any way rare shields, that are very useful to PvP'ers who use it in, PvP of course :P

DigitalFear · Jan 23, 2011, 07:03 PM // 19:03

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

not a common item like a shield with -5/20 and 30hp.

Ehm....what? -5/20 +30 mods are common?

Bright Star Shine · Jan 23, 2011, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by DigitalFear

Ehm....what? -5/20 +30 mods are common?

He meant that a shield with -5/20 can be replicated with an inscribable shield, so that they are common, but +10vsFire -2^ench for example isn't common since it can only occur on uniscr shields.

Crom The Pale · Jan 24, 2011, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

He meant that a shield with -5/20 can be replicated with an inscribable shield, so that they are common, but +10vsFire -2^ench for example isn't common since it can only occur on uniscr shields.

Thankyou.

Yes, I am fully aware that the word 'dual' means '2'. I have some 20+ shields all of which have 2 mods. Only 1 of which is what I concider a 'dual' mod shield according to those looking for the rare, not possible with inscriptions, type of shield.

superraptors · Jan 24, 2011, 06:35 AM // 06:35

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Originally Posted by take_me

There is no shield (or offhand) with enchantment-bonus.

And "dual-mod" simply means 2 inherent mods.... on a scepter, or shield or focus.

if i recall there was a collectors divine symbol at start of post sear that use to have +10% enchants and maybe a few still exist

and ppl theres only
nerfed dual reduction[ -2/-2, -2/-3,-2/-5 etc] then theres
newschool dual reduction[-2/+10, -5/+10,-3 /+10, -2/-20% etc]
dual inherent refers to all non-inscriptable dual modded shields[+30/-2, -2/+10, pretty much any non-inscriptable with 2 mods]
dual mod can refer to any shield with 2 mods obv